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Post by Cheesy November 4th 2010, 23:12

Now I'm not gonna have a go at them or anything like that because I'm sure they try their hardest but I think the last 6 months or so have shown us that certain players just aren't good enough for where we want to be.

Definitely not good enough... SWP, Lescott. Bridge, Richards, Jo, RSC

Questionable... Boyata, Vieira

Controversial... Adebayor, Mancini ;-)
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Post by bluealf November 4th 2010, 23:23

Fuck off back to your own site you miserable cunt.

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Post by jimharri November 4th 2010, 23:29

Cheesy wrote:Now I'm not gonna have a go at them or anything like that because I'm sure they try their hardest but I think the last 6 months or so have shown us that certain players just aren't good enough for where we want to be.

Definitely not good enough... SWP, Lescott. Bridge, Richards, Jo, RSC

Questionable... Boyata, Vieira

Controversial... Adebayor, Mancini ;-)
Why is that controversial?
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Post by Cheesy November 4th 2010, 23:47

bluealf wrote:Fuck off back to your own site you miserable cunt.

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Crying or Very sad
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Post by stony November 4th 2010, 23:52

Mancini needs to be given time. I'm not convinced he's the man myself, never have been, but changing managers every year isn't the answer.

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Post by bluealf November 5th 2010, 00:09

Was just joking Cheesy.

But by christ have you seen over there atm.

No

It is running like treacle and every other topic is of the mancini is clueless/ shite/ sack him etc etc.

Had to knock it off or I would be reaching for the noose.
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Post by Guest November 5th 2010, 00:11

stony wrote:Mancini needs to be given time. I'm not convinced he's the man myself, never have been, but changing managers every year isn't the answer.

Got to agree.

If this is Mancini doing what he has to do to sort the wheat from the chaff then fair enough. Wasn't he talked of at previous clubs as being a very difficult taskmaster who knew his own mind and got results (whilst leaving havoc behind him) ????

Let's give it at least some REAL time.

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Post by jimharri November 5th 2010, 00:22

mackenzie wrote:
stony wrote:Mancini needs to be given time. I'm not convinced he's the man myself, never have been, but changing managers every year isn't the answer.

Got to agree.

If this is Mancini doing what he has to do to sort the wheat from the chaff then fair enough. Wasn't he talked of at previous clubs as being a very difficult taskmaster who knew his own mind and got results (whilst leaving havoc behind him) ????

Let's give it at least some REAL time.
How long Mac? He's been here nearly a year now. If there were some tangible advances on the pitch in that time, then fair enough. Are we though? 3 defeats in ten league games, along with 2 draws. Carry that percentage through to next May, and you're looking at 10/11 defeats, coupled with 6/7 draws. And that will not get you CL football.
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Post by quiet_riot November 5th 2010, 00:24

Get rid: SWP, Bridge, Lescott, Jo, RSC, Richards, Given.
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Post by mat November 5th 2010, 00:27

mackenzie wrote:
stony wrote:Mancini needs to be given time. I'm not convinced he's the man myself, never have been, but changing managers every year isn't the answer.

Got to agree.

If this is Mancini doing what he has to do to sort the wheat from the chaff then fair enough. Wasn't he talked of at previous clubs as being a very difficult taskmaster who knew his own mind and got results (whilst leaving havoc behind him) ????

Let's give it at least some REAL time.

Agreed.

If there are any agitators they'll be gone like Bellamy in January. We need stability, just look across the road.

City are still a work in progress, granted I'm pissed off that i thought winning the league cup this season would be a good start for us but that's not going to happen. We are still 3 years away minimum in my view from being genuine world beaters.
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Post by Guest November 5th 2010, 00:29

jimharri wrote:
mackenzie wrote:
stony wrote:Mancini needs to be given time. I'm not convinced he's the man myself, never have been, but changing managers every year isn't the answer.

Got to agree.

If this is Mancini doing what he has to do to sort the wheat from the chaff then fair enough. Wasn't he talked of at previous clubs as being a very difficult taskmaster who knew his own mind and got results (whilst leaving havoc behind him) ????

Let's give it at least some REAL time.
How long Mac? He's been here nearly a year now. If there were some tangible advances on the pitch in that time, then fair enough. Are we though? 3 defeats in ten league games, along with 2 draws. Carry that percentage through to next May, and you're looking at 10/11 defeats, coupled with 6/7 draws. And that will not get you CL football.

He got something really right early doors this season....the defence.

I just think he has not been allowed to do anything bit a pick and mix because of the injuries we had to some key players.

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Post by quiet_riot November 5th 2010, 00:35

Add Milner to the get rid list. I realise Mansour is loaded, but £25 million for Milner? FFS.
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Post by jimharri November 5th 2010, 00:39

mat wrote:
Agreed.
If there are any agitators they'll be gone like Bellamy in January. We need stability, just look across the road.
City are still a work in progress, granted I'm pissed off that i thought winning the league cup this season would be a good start for us but that's not going to happen. We are still 3 years away minimum in my view from being genuine world beaters.
3 years? I'm honestly not sure I can wait that much longer for a trophy Mat. I still think what he did at WBA in the CC was unforgivable. The thinking was to proiritize the league; won 3, lost 3 since then. Didn't really work, did it?
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Post by quiet_riot November 5th 2010, 00:43

jimharri wrote:]3 years? I'm honestly not sure I can wait that much longer for a trophy Mat.


Bugger off. We've waited this long.
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Post by Cheesy November 5th 2010, 00:44

bluealf wrote:Was just joking Cheesy.

But by christ have you seen over there atm.

No

It is running like treacle and every other topic is of the mancini is clueless/ shite/ sack him etc etc.

Had to knock it off or I would be reaching for the noose.

I know you were joshing mate :-)

I can't even get on BM to clean it up.
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Post by jimharri November 5th 2010, 00:45

quiet_riot wrote:
jimharri wrote:]3 years? I'm honestly not sure I can wait that much longer for a trophy Mat.


Bugger off. We've waited this long.
Yeah; what will now be (at least) 35 years. Just how long are we supposed to wait?
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Post by mat November 5th 2010, 00:46

jimharri wrote: I still think what he did at WBA in the CC was unforgivable.

So do I Jim. I think that was our most genuine chance to win anything but i also think we need stability. If Mancini was sacked i don't particularly like the out of work alternatives. The only person i'd like to see if that was the case would be (Tin Hat)














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Post by jimharri November 5th 2010, 00:49

mat wrote:
jimharri wrote: I still think what he did at WBA in the CC was unforgivable.

So do I Jim. I think that was our most genuine chance to win anything but i also think we need stability. If Mancini was sacked i don't particularly like the out of work alternatives. The only person i'd like to see if that was the case would be (Tin Hat)














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Hiddink? Rijkaard? Van Gaal? Don't think they're out of work, but we can afford to pay their clubs compensation.
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Post by mat November 5th 2010, 00:54

If your looking at it that way then I'd go to Barca and get Guardiola.

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Post by jimharri November 5th 2010, 00:55

mat wrote:If your looking at it that way then I'd go to Barca and get Guardiola.

Don't think he'd leave them. He'd have to be mad. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol etc etc.
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Post by Guest November 5th 2010, 01:09

Bent Arry anyone?? Razz

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Post by jimharri November 5th 2010, 01:13

mackenzie wrote:Bent Arry anyone?? Razz
He gets slaughtered across the road, but he's worked wonders at Spurs. Bottom 3 when he took over, 18 months later they're in the CL and tore the defending champions apart on tuesday night. Could you honestly see RM inspiring us to such a performance? i know i can't.
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Post by bluealf November 5th 2010, 01:19

quiet_riot wrote:
jimharri wrote:]3 years? I'm honestly not sure I can wait that much longer for a trophy Mat.


Bugger off. We've waited this long.


What you going to do Jim stop supporting City ?

It is a daft statement and thats what got me going last time, not the Mancini part.

You can and you will wait like all the rest of us because we are CTID ot meant to be anyways.



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Post by bluealf November 5th 2010, 01:21

If we are throwing names around...............................

Martin Jol

There I've said it.

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Post by jimharri November 5th 2010, 01:24

bluealf wrote:
quiet_riot wrote:
jimharri wrote:]3 years? I'm honestly not sure I can wait that much longer for a trophy Mat.


Bugger off. We've waited this long.


What you going to do Jim stop supporting City ?

It is a daft statement and thats what got me going last time, not the Mancini part.

You can and you will wait like all the rest of us because we are CTID ot meant to be anyways.



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I'm getting sick and tired of waiting for a trophy Alf. That's why i can't forgive Mancini for doing what he did against the Baggies. Resting players is all well and good if it pays dividends, but it hasn't. W3, L2 (in the league) since then. If you can honestly see him taking us to where we all want to be, you're a better man than me. Good shout on Jol, BTW.
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